Did you get on Vans Before television was invented?
Damn! Yeah, before cars were invented. Right when the wheel got invented, around that time. No, I was 13 years old. I got on Vans at Vans because they had a ramp in the warehouse and this guy Beetle Rosecrans, that rode for Hosoi Skateboards, and his dad Everett were doing the Vans team and everyone would go there and skate.
What’s your brother do now? When’s the last time he stepped on a board?
He skates a little bit here and there and surfs but he’s doing his own thing. He does mortgage stuff now for a living.
Do you trip on that aspect of it that now parents do look at it as a lucrative career for their kids?
Yeah. It works nowadays for people. Look a guy like Shawn White. It’s not necessarily the route I took because those were not options then. And my parents, it sounds weird, but they didn’t want you to ride a skateboard; it was an anarchist thing to do. You were an outcast.
You’re credited as being one of the earlier ATVs that skated everything. Who do you think of when you think of original ATVs?
Danny Way, for sure. Wade Speyer was a huge one for me. Blockhead was out of Sacramento and I used to spend a lot of time with Wade and he was a huge influence. John Cardiel. Those guys were ahead of their time when it came to being able to ride everything. Those three guys I’d watch their video parts and get psyched because they were always doing something that was out of the box.
What’s going on with Black Label these days?
They’re doing good again. They’ve sized down to their means and John is going to produce more of his art, which will help it a lot. People look at Black Label and they really want to see John Lucero.
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